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	<description>vox victimarum, vox dei</description>
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		<title>By: The Don</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10386</link>
		<dc:creator>The Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s alright...I don&#039;t think we agree on anything anyway ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s alright&#8230;I don&#8217;t think we agree on anything anyway ;)</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10369</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could not disagree with you more, The Don.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could not disagree with you more, The Don.</p>
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		<title>By: The Don</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10349</link>
		<dc:creator>The Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They may have a point, but I think our society has become overly sensitive to anything *perceived* to be racial in content or origin, and it is always laid at the feet of white people, as if there is a &#039;collective guilt&#039; in regards to the issue.  But for how much longer are there going to be &#039;victims&#039; (on the large scale) in our society, and more often than not (from what I have seen), racial issue have provided a trump card and has actually impeded progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They may have a point, but I think our society has become overly sensitive to anything <strong>perceived</strong> to be racial in content or origin, and it is always laid at the feet of white people, as if there is a &#8216;collective guilt&#8217; in regards to the issue.  But for how much longer are there going to be &#8216;victims&#8217; (on the large scale) in our society, and more often than not (from what I have seen), racial issue have provided a trump card and has actually impeded progress.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10311</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, Don, but that&#039;s because the US has a long history, including current conditions, of deep racism. So I don&#039;t think we can or should be so dismissive of people who claim to see racist elements in a movie like The DaVinci Code. Does that mean I agree with Seven Star Hand&#039;s statement that names like Matthew, Mark, Luke &amp; John in the Bible signifies racism? No. But I think the people who made the posts I quoted do have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, Don, but that&#8217;s because the US has a long history, including current conditions, of deep racism. So I don&#8217;t think we can or should be so dismissive of people who claim to see racist elements in a movie like The DaVinci Code. Does that mean I agree with Seven Star Hand&#8217;s statement that names like Matthew, Mark, Luke &#038; John in the Bible signifies racism? No. But I think the people who made the posts I quoted do have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: The Don</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10305</link>
		<dc:creator>The Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In America, nothing can EVER be done without injecting a racial component to it.  It is within our societal blood and fabric, for good or ill.  It was bound to come up in the discussion of *that book* at one time or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America, nothing can <span class="caps">EVER</span> be done without injecting a racial component to it.  It is within our societal blood and fabric, for good or ill.  It was bound to come up in the discussion of <strong>that book</strong> at one time or another.</p>
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		<title>By: adamv</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10270</link>
		<dc:creator>adamv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seven Star Hand, the Merovingians never made these kinds of claims.  They couldn&#039;t say stuff like that an maitain the Church&#039;s support.  They are folktales from later periods.  And they were never in royal or burgiousie circles.

Since the book/movie is about those stories, it only makes sense that you&#039;d make it a European movie.  (Although its unfortunate that whenever any ethnicity makes Jesus, Mary, the saints whatever ethnicity they are its &quot;enculturation.&quot;  And yet when a white person does that its racist, colonial, or oppresive).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seven Star Hand, the Merovingians never made these kinds of claims.  They couldn&#8217;t say stuff like that an maitain the Church&#8217;s support.  They are folktales from later periods.  And they were never in royal or burgiousie circles.</p>
<p>Since the book/movie is about those stories, it only makes sense that you&#8217;d make it a European movie.  (Although its unfortunate that whenever any ethnicity makes Jesus, Mary, the saints whatever ethnicity they are its &#8220;enculturation.&#8221;  And yet when a white person does that its racist, colonial, or oppresive).</p>
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		<title>By: ethan</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10269</link>
		<dc:creator>ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something i hadn&#039;t ever taken notice to either. as far as the protrayal always being a white guy. much like in the passion of the christ. white, american actor playing jesus. hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something i hadn&#8217;t ever taken notice to either. as far as the protrayal always being a white guy. much like in the passion of the christ. white, american actor playing jesus. hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Star Hand</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10260</link>
		<dc:creator>Seven Star Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism is a very important part of the history of Christianity. The Genesis of these stories occurred in ancient African, Asia, and Judea and then moved to surrounding countries after the Roman Empire ethnically cleansed Judea of the &quot;Tribe of Judah.&quot; In the subsequent century, Rome assumed control of Christianity and it then became based on European characters with European names and faces.

It is undeniable that the European names and faces of the New Testament and Christianity cannot possibly be the truth. They were interpolated into the so-called Gospels by Roman leadership. It is important to remember that ancient Judeans were dark-skinned, as were the Gnostic Coptics (Egyptians) and the Ethiopians. None of these people would have had names like Mark, Peter, Paul, Phillip, Jesus, etc. Consequently, it is undeniable that these names (and faces) are later creations imposed by Romans who ruthlessly eliminated all competing stories and philosophies to establish the Christian Orthodoxy now referred to as the New Testament.

The very fact that the New Testament and Christianity have been cleansed of African and Middle Eastern names and faces is evidence of purposeful racism. The fact that it continues to this day is undeniable. Simply look at how Christian nations have treated native peoples in every land they conquered and then imposed the Christian myth, which asserts the divinity of a white-skinned messiah, who is based on obvious lies.

The Merovingian kings in France simply endeavored to steal Rome&#039;s thunder by co-opting the Christian Myth to their own purposes by saying that Mary married a French king.  This ploy was an obvious deception used to gain the loyalty of the citizens of the emerging French nation. Why would people who were so opposed wealth and power (money-changers in the temple, etc.) marry into royalty? It&#039;s obvious that these French aristocrats saw through Rome&#039;s deceptions and used them, just as Rome had. It is unlikely they were much focused on racism though, since their subjects were all Europeans. Rome on the other hand had been oppressing and fighting Asians and Africans for centuries.

Peace...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism is a very important part of the history of Christianity. The Genesis of these stories occurred in ancient African, Asia, and Judea and then moved to surrounding countries after the Roman Empire ethnically cleansed Judea of the &#8220;Tribe of Judah.&#8221; In the subsequent century, Rome assumed control of Christianity and it then became based on European characters with European names and faces.</p>
<p>It is undeniable that the European names and faces of the New Testament and Christianity cannot possibly be the truth. They were interpolated into the so-called Gospels by Roman leadership. It is important to remember that ancient Judeans were dark-skinned, as were the Gnostic Coptics (Egyptians) and the Ethiopians. None of these people would have had names like Mark, Peter, Paul, Phillip, Jesus, etc. Consequently, it is undeniable that these names (and faces) are later creations imposed by Romans who ruthlessly eliminated all competing stories and philosophies to establish the Christian Orthodoxy now referred to as the New Testament.</p>
<p>The very fact that the New Testament and Christianity have been cleansed of African and Middle Eastern names and faces is evidence of purposeful racism. The fact that it continues to this day is undeniable. Simply look at how Christian nations have treated native peoples in every land they conquered and then imposed the Christian myth, which asserts the divinity of a white-skinned messiah, who is based on obvious lies.</p>
<p>The Merovingian kings in France simply endeavored to steal Rome&#8217;s thunder by co-opting the Christian Myth to their own purposes by saying that Mary married a French king.  This ploy was an obvious deception used to gain the loyalty of the citizens of the emerging French nation. Why would people who were so opposed wealth and power (money-changers in the temple, etc.) marry into royalty? It&#8217;s obvious that these French aristocrats saw through Rome&#8217;s deceptions and used them, just as Rome had. It is unlikely they were much focused on racism though, since their subjects were all Europeans. Rome on the other hand had been oppressing and fighting Asians and Africans for centuries.</p>
<p>Peace&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adamv</title>
		<link>http://catholicanarchy.org/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-10252</link>
		<dc:creator>adamv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dan Brown may have been used underground French Merovingian myths as the basis for his books.  These are legednds that go several hundred years back connecting the  Merovingian dynasty in the dark ages to the &quot;bloodline&quot; of Christ.

So I don&#039;t think race actively a component here.  France is the culture that produced the myth, so Brown might as well  have drawn on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dan Brown may have been used underground French Merovingian myths as the basis for his books.  These are legednds that go several hundred years back connecting the  Merovingian dynasty in the dark ages to the &#8220;bloodline&#8221; of Christ.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t think race actively a component here.  France is the culture that produced the myth, so Brown might as well  have drawn on it.</p>
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